Rhetoric, as a form of communication, was offered by Aristotle and Plato from different views, perceptions and interpretations of words they used. While Plato was pointing upwards, showing that everything is eternal, Aristotle was pointing at the real world. Trying to imitate the teacher (Phaedrus), Aristotle wrote his dialogues (Grullos), and, in general, their writings have formed the key concepts of ancient philosophy on the one and rhetoric on the other hand. Yet, as all other theorists and philosophers, they avoided a common practice of rhetoric, stressing on the widespread error of placing arguments and demagogy instead of public speech.
Both Plato and Aristotle have found rhetoric to be rather deceitful, though, they had been using it in their writings, speeches and lectures; for Plato was right, when he noticed that it could be used by philosophers and scholars, because they know how to use it to bring good for a whole society, without deceitful intentions; while all previous teachers offered rhetoric as a craft to arouse emotional mood of audience – these were audience’s distractions from the point, rather than rational judgments. Aristotle had dedicated the whole book to rhetoric and its influence, and at Grullos he agreed with Plato that it is an art. An ongoing struggle of Plato with rhetoric is increasing all through his dialogues: his theories of ultimate ideas and forms of reality have echoed in Republic’s idea of poetry as a part of rhetoric, where the authors were presenting their goods to the greatest audience possible in order to gain reputation and manipulation.
Just like Plato, Aristotle had been warning the audience on the influence of rhetorical speeches, their negative and advantageous impacts, good and bad outcomes. Using the speech alone, they argued, we can accuse or defend, be just and unjust. Both of them viewed rhetoric as a method to “detect aspects of a given subject which are causally connected with the intended emotion” (Aristotle’s Rhetoric, para.21). Aristotle’s and Plato’s rhetorical rule was: speaker must address his subject to the specific hearer, but not to his own mind.
“Aristotle vs. Plato”
Plato has considered rhetoric to be dangerous from the facts of words’ manipulation of public opinion. For him, it was a social threat, for it contradicted religious notions of eternal and unchangeable concepts. Plato antagonized rhetoric, believing that justice and truth should be based on facts, rather than on person’s ability to influence society; nevertheless, as the time was passing by he accepted rhetoric as a reasonable and legal tool to address the people. In Gorgias, Plato denied rhetoric to be an art, because it could not be related to a specific subject, yet, later he viewed it as art that could be described in terms, based on reason and method. This is what we find in his dialogue Phaedrus: “the rational investigation of futurity […] as it is an art which supplies from the reasoning faculty mind (nous) and information (istoria) to human thought (oiesis).” (Phaedrus, p.13).
On the other hand, Aristotle viewed rhetoric as something, which is not an object and, therefore, is not related to a certain science, or its principles. Aristotle offered syllogisms to prove that rhetoric is related to dialectic, yet “alludes to Plato’s Gorgias where rhetoric is ironically defined as a counterpart to cookery in the soul” (Aristotle’s Rhetoric, para.6). But, contrary to Plato, he observed objects first and, afterwards, using rhetoric (logic) and other studied subjects to gain other goods from them in practical and social ways. For Plato, real world was an imperfect shadow of perfect form; while for Aristotle, it was the world that could be observed, full of technical descriptions. Rhetoric was effective for him; it had such forms as deliberative, epideictic and judicial speeches. Yet, most of Aristotle’s principles originated and were adapted from Plato’s concepts.
For both Plato and Aristotle, rhetoric has not been offering real knowledge and was targeted at intellectual audience to reach persuasion without specific arguments. But their core rhetoric difference lies in their audience: Plato was addressing students (viewing it from the eternal perfect form’s perspective), Aristotle – politicians (looking from material world, composed of forms).
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On Virtue: Comparing The Views Of Confucius And Aristotle
Abstract
There has been a growing need to compare and possibly contrast Aristotle’ virtue ethics with the views of Confucius on ren- which can also be translated to mean virtue. The implication of this discussion is to establish if there is any kind of relationship between the two philosophers’ thoughts. It is specifically important to attempt to distinguish these concepts especially given the fact that there is a slight difference between morality and ethics. This has been established following the contributions of later day philosophers towards the earlier works of Aristotle. This research paper has therefore attempted to compare the views of the two philosophers and while giving their differences fair mention especially in the virtues of politics, ethics and morality
Introduction
Aristotle and Confucius have both stressed on the value of virtue within the society, spelling out how it correlates with the political correctness of a regime. Even so they do take different approaches in describing the nature of virtue and how the society can embrace this value. This paper will give a detailed description of the two sides of arguments provided by both Aristotle and Confucius stating where they differ and where their concepts portray a similarity.
The paper will therefore present the concepts of virtue illustrated by Aristotle on one hand then present the concepts of virtue as illustrated by Confucius on the other hand. It will then give a comparison of the two argumentative sides pointing out the areas where they differ and how this difference brings out the general overview of the concept of virtue. The paper will also bring out the similarity between Aristotle and Confucius’ concepts of virtue stating how this influences the general understanding of virtue.
Comparing Aristotle and Confucius
Confucius has been widely accepted as a thinker. This is because most of his works revolved around ethics and morality. Aristotle on the other hand concentrated his works on ethics. (Yu 1998). A fundamental question that can be asked here regarding the definition of ethics and morality is on which sides the two philosophers lie. The bone of contention here is whether ren which also implies virtue is the same kind of virtue that should be taken to mean the opposite of morality.
This discussion is therefore very interesting. This is because the discussion focuses on bringing out the differences between these two philosophers. This is more so given the fact that Aristotle’s virtue ethics in the mainly in the West while Confucianism is in the East. (Yu 1998). Virtue can be translated in Latin to mean virtues which has an implication of manhood. This had an original meaning of excellence of humanly qualities. Ren on the was used in the early poetry books to refer to noble huntsmen.
The implication here according to some researchers is that ren could as well have the meaning of manly or even manhood. That notwithstanding, their applications in daily use are quite different. The word ren is more inclined towards human relationships. It is based in this reasoning that Confucius teaches that when people learn to be good, they become people of ren. According to Aristotle on the other hand, anything of virtue is something on its own good function. That is a thing that can be said to have its virtue by functioning properly. (Yu 1998).
Remastering morals virtues with Aristotle and Confucius
The views of Aristotle and Confucius have had similarities and differences. The ethics of Aristotle flow from an understanding of purposive nature in actualization while Confucius ethics are from a sense of comparison in relations and balance among the ingredients. (Sim, 2007, p201) While Aristotle’s agents operate from deliberating among options which are based on reasonable judgment, Confucius agents operates from an aesthetic sense of that which is fine and fitting based on sensible cultivation in occasions and rituals that are virtually right and have strong alternatives. (Sim, 2007, p201)
Confucius’ ethical reflections provide a supplement that is physical and this leaves the reader to figure out for themselves the implications of the observations made by Confucius and their pronouncements. On the other hand Aristotle’s metaphysics have substance and are individualistic something that Confucius’ metaphysics lack. Confucius’ metaphysics tend to be rational and possessive. (Sim, 2007, p.201).Aristotle’s metaphysics have a sense of reason and distinction. This is shown especially in his ranking of friendship. He has three senses of substance which include, the concrete substance which consist of a matter and its form. The species form which reference a matter that is taken generally and finally the pure form considered the final cause itself. (Sim, 2007, p.201)
Aristotle had doctrines which used these three senses .If human beings had pure minds according to Aristotle; they would not have the desire and the emotions that come from the essence of being human beings. It is because of the emotions that individuals admit to qualitative difference. Through friendships individuals are able to take care of their individual needs and pleasures. (Sim, 2007, p202) .The virtue of friendship and its importance is a common view shared by Aristotle and Confucius. Human beings need friendship for sharing and association. Confucius and Aristotle also agree on the view of a virtuous man as the man who loves himself but not because of his material wealth a view shared by Aristotle. (Sim, 2007, p.210)
Aristotle concentrated much on the happiness of human being and how he will live for the common good of the people. Aristotle concentrates much on the intellectual virtue on practical basis while Confucius covers much on the general virtues. Aristotle virtues were based on practicality and one could easily visualize them but confusions views on virtue were in general terms (Jejuna, 2007) Aristotle is of the view that virtues are acquired through a process which he calls habituation which simply means that the virtue can be inherited through cultivation. This confronts the ideas of the Confucius that he held that virtues in human being are acquired through engagement in rituals (Jiyuan, 2007).
Confucius and Aristotle differed in the definition of virtue where Aristotle defined the virtue as a state that human being good and perform his function properly. This discusses the excellence of the human being. He focuses on the improvement of the human being happiness, in Nicomachean he concentrates mostly on the social aspects. He stresses on the point of individual improvement that can lead to happiness and lead to the common good of the partnerships (Saturday, 2007).
On the other hand Confucius defines the virtue as being love to all men. He places his much focus on the virtue in relation to the interpersonal interactions with the society. While Aristotle seem to be of the view that one should treat himself better than the other Confucius views is that one should be good to other as he is to himself. Aristotle insists that practicing of the virtues is a great approach in achieving the happiness. This contradicts the Confucius views on virtue that they should be practiced for the sake of virtue only. The only contrast among the two is that they both do not provide rules that to be followed when actions are to be taken (Saturday, 2007). They continue to differ on the way the virtues are acquired where Aristotle claims that virtues are obtained through regular performance of virtuous. To this Confucius says that the virtues can be obtained but he does not explain the details are how they should be obtained (Saturday, 2007).
Aristotle and Confucius are basically great philosophers the world has had, a comparison of the views of the two on the concept of house hold results in a wonderful contrast. According to Aristotle household basically has an economic function that is capable of providing to the household members and thus enhancing continuity in life on the other hand Confucius absolves himself from Aristotle point of view and views a house hold as a real of training virtues. This contrast basically leads to the question whether virtues exist within or outside the household. (Everson1996 p11)
To some extent the two philosophers agree that virtues exist inside the house hold as long as the main driving force is not acquiring wealth. According to Everson(1996 p.11) in his book entitled the “politics and constitution of Athens” Aristotle seems to portray that politic is basically the most important thing than any other thing and the political class will always successful ahead of the community in achieving their goals. This view basically originates from the fact that the political classes always represent the entire society.
On the other hand Confucius in Legge (1971, p.359) postulates that the whole kingdom ought to be happy and at ease with each other and he expresses as the overall objective of each and every person in the kingdom .Its important to note that both the two philosophers are generally concerned about the well being f the society but basically have different means of achieving this goal in that for Aristotle politics is the main thing to achieve the highest state while Confucius propagates for cultivation of one to achieve tranquility and success in life.
On politics, Aristotle explains how the moment of mutual recognition within the society occurs when each individual identifies a striking tradition of virtue that exits within the deep-seated cultural differences. (Goodman & Talisse, 2007, p.69).Even so, each tradition deserves respect and should not be stopped from pursuing the vision of its political virtue. However it may be difficult for a tradition to recognize individual rights but it is the virtue tradition that may limit the recognition of the visions of virtue. (Goodman & Talisse, 2007, p.69).
Confucius on the other hand stipulates that it is with good laws that virtuous citizens can exist and the virtuous practices can be exercised. According to him, a virtuous politics does not consider laws and rules as the major things to look into as they are just supplements of virtue. (Goodman & Talisse, 2007, p.69).Therefore Confucius states that good laws are a way of refining virtue since they go along with the possession of virtue. He also stresses that good laws is something owed to the citizens because it is from the good laws that they can achieve virtue. For that reason, the people should claim their right to the conditions that will encourage them to be virtuous and this means that the political policies have to enact good laws. (Goodman & Talisse, 2007, p.69).
Further still, both Confucius and Aristotle agree that the society is obliged to take care of its advantaged members. This is because according to both of them, the people who have abundant resources should be well taken care of because of the generosity and splendor they exude to the society. ( Goodman & Talisse, 2007, p.70).Furthermore, both Aristotle and Confucius believe that the responsibility that lies in the hands of the advantaged members of the society can only be generated by virtue and the less fortunate also need to be assisted by the fortunate. On the same note, it should be understood that virtue can not be pursued unless the society works towards meeting the minimal needs of life. (Goodman & Talisse, 2007, p.70).
Conclusion
Evidently, both Aristotle and Confucius stress on the importance of virtue within the society even though they their views differ in one way or the other. On one hand Aristotle’s concepts originate from an understanding of the nature of actualization while Confucius’ originate from a comparison of relations and the balance among the ingredients. On the other hand, Confucius’ concept comes from an aesthetic point of view and leaves the readers to interpret them from their own perspective while Aristotle’s concepts come about as a result of reasonable judgment. All the same they both talk about the essence of virtue within the society and at certain points they even seem to agree with each other’s views.
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Aristotle On Lovborg’s Magnanimity
If Aristotle had known Lovborg, I think he’d ascribe magnanimity to him. Lovborg plays one of the major characters in Henrik Ibsen’s Hedda Gabler. In the play, Lovborg was a reformed drunkard. Although, he’s Tesman’s strongest academic rival, society still considers him to be a failure. After several years in sobriety, he has decided to go back to their town and publish his manuscript. Lovborg is no doubt good in his craft. People are expecting a magnificent manuscript. In fact, he’s being considered for a position in the university that Tesman desperately wants. However, despite his greatness, he’s still considered a failure, probably because of his weakness when it comes to alcohol, which in the end of the play caused his demise.
The term magnanimity is termed by Aristotle. Aristotle defines it as the “crowning virtue”. It is basically the state of being great in both hearts and mind. It is something that goes beyond injustice and revenge. From the Latin word magn- which means great, and anima for soul, magnanimity is the encompassing of all actions for noble purposes. Thus, somebody who is magnanimous refuses to be petty in any aspect, but instead would prefer to sacrifice his personal interest, and delights in these acts of benevolence.
Aristotle could not have emphasized more on the context of ethical behavior. He believes that one should be able to recognize the best course of action. Magnanimity is like a combination of virtuous. One could not be magnanimous without possessing several other virtues. Magnanimity could also be regarded as the mean of small-mindedness and vanity. Small-minded is sometimes referred to as pettiness wherein someone who underestimates his own value. Vanity on the other hand is the opposite. It is when someone falsely claims great things for himself but in fact, doesn’t deserve them.
Simply put, a magnanimous person claims great things like honor and respect, and actually deserves these. It is synonymous to high-mindedness or great-souledness. Magnanimity goes hand in hand with greatness. By definition, you could say that magnanimity is associated with human excellence. A magnanimous person knows he deserves these great things such as honor and respect, and keeps on insisting on getting them. He maintains high standards in everything he does, thus also setting good examples to the rest of the community.
Magnanimous persons are praiseworthy. Nothing could be better than knowing what you’re worth and fighting for that. It is a pity to see persons being regarded as less than what they’re worth. It’s a pity to see great persons going down to a fool’s level because he’s not confident enough about what he could do. Nothing makes me pity a person even more than seeing him not knowing what he’s really worth. I know of several persons who possess great skills but were not given the chance to prove themselves because they’re not that strong to insist on something which they really deserve. Thus, if we see or hear of agents going at great lengths to get what they deserve, then we should raise our thumbs up to them. The world tends to be condescending that even getting something the you deserve is not anymore that easy to do.
In Henrik Ibsen’s play Hedda Gabber, however, the opposite happens. Lovborg gives himself very high regard, thus not fitting the definition of magnanimity. I don’t believe Lovborg shows the prerequisites of magnanimity. He’s good, yes, but he does not promote excellence in every aspect, which a magnanimous person should. The dialog between Tesman and Lovborg discussing Lovborg’s upcoming book release may show Lovborg as imposing greatness on himself, but I think that’s too much. It’s much more than what he probably deserves.
A magnanimous person is said to take pride on setting good examples and doing benevolent deeds. In the dialog, the only thing very apparent is Lovborg’s pride. Lovborg knows that he’s good but it seems that he has overestimated himself. This is a good example of what Aristotle might claim as vanity. Persons who don’t deserve that much praise and honor insist on getting them are simply vain. They aspire great things for themselves but they don’t really deserve those.
But the question is: should we praise Lovborg for sounding so vain towards Tesman during their conversation? I believe we do. Vanity is better than pettiness. He may not be everything what he claims to be, but at least he knows how to take pride in his work. Small-minded people puts themselves low before other people, and nothing is worse than that. Vanity on the other hand will just correct itself through time. Vain persons may first claim great thing they don’t really deserve, but through time, they’d be able to live up to their own expectations. There are only two possible outcomes for vanity: the person would realize he’s not that great, or he’d be able to work his way to meet his high expectations for himself.
Lovborg deserves our praises. People see him as a failure and a drunkard, but despite that, he insists on how good he is with what he does. He’s got strong spirits and regards himself high – too highly maybe. However, that’s a very good thing. It’s good to show people that you believe that you could do great things – much greater things than what these people think you could do. Insisting and showing people that you are great, when they believe otherwise, requires much strength, and for that Lovborg deserves our praises. It’s not easy to be proud when people has already seen you in your lowest state. It takes a lot of courage to simply stand up to them and show them that despite what has happened, you still believe you are great and deserves to be acknowledged.